TRIGGER WARNING: This post deals with rape and sexual harassment, and may be triggering for some readers.
It’s a big step for gender equality – a woman’s right to serve on the military’s front line. But it seems that the dangers of war aren’t the only obstacle women have to overcome while serving for their country.
Apparently, a woman’s right to fight doesn’t mean that she is treated as an equal in the army’s living quarters, training stations or behind closed doors.
One woman whose niece is considering joining the military has taken to Reddit to ask female soldiers if her concerns about sexual harassment are legitimate. The question now has over 3000 comments – and the answers are confronting.
Run_amuck said:
The biggest word of advice that I have as a female veteran that experienced sexual assault from a fellow soldier is: Know how to get help before you end up needing it and know what is and isn’t wrong. When I joined, the concept of rape was so foreign to me that I couldn’t even label what happened to me for a very long time. It destroyed my sense of self and I was on autopilot for years afterward. Knowledge is power.
Sadly this response isn’t an isolated one.
notarealusername1007 said:
I enlisted in the navy at age 20 in 2008 I got out in 2012. The navy was a great way to advance my life. I no longer live in the small bumfuck corn field I grew up in and I am paying for a real college without debt.
Sexual harassment was a daily thing. “Female” should never have been an insult. However the perception of women as inferior to men is a very real obstacle.
Yes. I was raped by “friend” who I served with. I carried the secret in shame until separation because I did not want to have to deal with the way the military treats Military Sexual Trauma or deal with it myself. There is an unhealthy attitude toward women in the navy.
It doesn’t matter how attractive she is or isn’t if she’s young there will be a bunch of guys waiting to pick her up. Most will be pretty good guys. She could be the chaste virgin and there will still be someone spreading rumours about what a slut she is.
There was a common theme addressing the inequality between how men and women are treated in the military.
BarrogaPoga said:
However the perception of women as inferior to men is a very real obstacle. Yup, I’ve been in for 3.5 years now and since day one i’ve been told by everyone – leadership down to my peers – that women are lazy, sleep their way to the top, get pregnant to get out of deployments, or go crazy. We’re all sluts and bitches and “oh the Navy was so much better when females weren’t around.”
It’s really tough to look past all that and do your job effectively. I’m in a technical job, and my work center is primarily guys. It’s very difficult to be taken seriously or ignore the comments they make. I’m looking forward to the day i get out and sure as hell will not re-enlist.
To the women that can make it work, you must be stronger than i am, because i do not want to put up with this anymore. I tried reporting harassment before and faced bad reprisal. Now i just keep my mouth shut and head down and try to ignore the “cold hearted bitch” comments and do the job the Navy hired me to do.
Some had stories from when they enlisted as a young teenager.
nellirn said:
I was sexually assaulted when I was enlisted at age 17. He was an officer. I reported it, in fact, several other females reported similar behavior. We went to court and we lost the case as it was our word against his. After that whenever I was sexually harassed while in the military, I harassed the perpetrator right back.
Men joined the conversation too, not denying the horrible sexism in the military.
WereLawyer said:
I’m a guy and spent 4 years in the army. Every woman who refused to be a slut was called a lesbian… Very awful environment….I knew one woman who actually said during a party after one week in unit, “Ok, who am I fucking tonight?” She slept with a guy that night and then spent the rest of the next day arguing with her boyfriend back home.
Just young kids being dumb and young with almost no supervision.
It also has nothing to do with leadership. The leadership have almost zero control on the matter. Education doesn’t change anything either. Segregation might do it – but even then, sexual harassment finds a way.
We doubt these were the answers anyone was hoping for.
If you or anyone you know has been the victim of a sexual assault. Help is available. Call the National Sexual Assault, Domestic, Family Violence Counselling Service 24/7 on 1800 737 732. Bravehearts are another organisation that help the victims of child sex abuse. You can find more information about them here.
Top Comments
A woman's right to serve on the front line?
That's a joke. Do you know how many women have applied to be front line soldiers in Australia?
None. Nil. Zero. Not one.
Fascinating claim, sans any facts...
"Only two of 3100 women army soldiers join Infantry in military frontline
Since internal transfers to front line units opened to women in January 2013 just 63 females defence members have applied to join combat units.
New recruits will be eligible to apply to join frontline units from 2016."
http://www.news.com.au/life...
To be even handed, I think you and Guest might be referring to different things based on what the perception of what a Frontline role is and what a Combat role is.
If Guest is referring to Infantry specifically as 'frontline roles' he is correct according to your linked article. If you are referring to 'combat roles', including armour, artillery and engineering you are also correct.
There is also the distinction between whether roles in the Reserves and actual frontline experience are the same.
To be even handed, what was Guest's agenda?
I have no idea, I was not looking for the agenda of either you or Guest.
You both seemed to be using perceived facts so I was playing Switzerland and trying to provide some background on how you could both be right depending on the definitions used.
Switzerland always gets a tough rap for being neutral, at least they have great chocolate.
Anonymous reddit answer must be true. Ideologies never troll boards looking to make false flags and leaning statements.