For four days, the child abuse royal commission has forensically questioned Cardinal George Pell over his knowledge of alleged abuse within Australia’s Catholic Church.
Abuse survivors and their supporters watched on as evidence was extracted from Australia’s most senior Catholic — some of it, they said, “beggared belief”.
Here are some of the key moments in his testimony and the reactions it drew.
Day one:
- Cardinal Pell said the church made ‘enormous mistakes’
- He said the ‘predisposition was not to believe’ children’s claims of abuse
- Cardinal Pell said the instinct was to protect the church
He was questioned specifically on two case studies — number 28 about the Diocese of Ballarat and number 35 about the Archdiocese of Melbourne.
These case studies included complaints about Monsignor John Day, Brother Gerald Leo Fitzgerald and Gerald Ridsdale.
Here’s some of Cardinal Pell’s most potent testimony from the day:
During the testimony, the royal commission heard about a world of “crime and cover ups”.
- Cardinal Pell said he was not properly or adequately briefed by the Catholic Education Office or Archbishop about abuse in Ballarat or Melbourne
- The senior counsel assisting the inquiry dismissed those statements
- He was questioned about Father Peter Searson who was accused of sexually abusing children
- The inquiry also heard Searson held a knife to a young girl’s chest and told her: “If you move, this will go through you”.
Cardinal Pell said he had no recollection of a meeting in which a list of complaints made by children was raised that included fear of sexual abuse, Searson hitting children and concerns he was dangerous.
Day four:
Cardinal Pell said it was a “disastrous coincidence” that four or five child sexual offenders ended up being placed in Ballarat East in the 1970s.
One of those men was Gerald Ridsdale. One of his victims was his nephew David Ridsdale, who was in Rome and whose lawyer spent time questioning Cardinal Pell on day four. The lawyer focused on David Ridsdale’s claim Cardinal Pell tried to bribe him to remain silent.
The inquiry also revisited Cardinal Pell’s “of no interest to me” line:
Q: You said on Tuesday, and I can take you to the transcript if necessary, that Father Ridsdale interfering with children at Inglewood was “A sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me”. Do you remember saying that?
A: I remember messing up this sequence completely. I regret the choice of words. I was very confused, I responded poorly.
Speaking outside the hotel where Cardinal Pell gave evidence, survivors said they doubted he was telling the truth.
“The Ballarat survivors came to Rome to hear truth and honesty from George. We feel we have been deceived and lied to,” survivor Philip Nagle said.
After the hearing ended, David Ridsdale told reporters, the “fight is far from over”:
“We hear so much people say things like, ‘it was a different time’, or ‘we didn’t know’,” he said.
“I don’t buy it because there is never a good time to rape children.
“We need the dialogue to change so people start saying, ‘I can’t believe how ignorant we were and how can we do better’.
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Top Comments
Pell needs to go to jail for life. Do the crime do the time. How can you live and work with all those violent pedophiles for so long listening to so many accusations over and over every year and do nothing. You are pure evil.
I don't recall, I don't recalll, I don't recall. That's what we heard. But keep putting money in that plate everyone!