So a couple of weeks ago I’m talking to my Mum on the phone about group sex. Again. Weird? Not really. We discuss it semi-regularly, whenever a football scandal erupts. Remember last year after the Four Corners award-winning investigative report on the NRL and Matthew Johns, when group sex was suddenly a topic of polite conversation with friends, relatives, colleagues, parents at school, even – excruciatingly – our own children if they’d seen the news?
While many of us were perplexed by the idea of mates standing around watching each other have sex with the same woman (fun way to spend the evening, guys?), a giant can of worms was opened in workplaces, bars, homes and at BBQs. It was called Consent.
I recall some very uncomfortable moments back then when people I assumed were like-minded about the simple idea that a woman has the right to say no at any point before or during sex revealed some alarming views to the contrary. Views like “if she goes back to a guy’s hotel room, what does she expect?” And “it’s her fault for putting herself in that situation in the first place.” And “scrubbers that hang around football players deserve what they get.”
Ugh. The logic here is ugly and warped. It’s based on the premise that men cannot control themselves. That they are wild beasts who barge through any door left partially ajar. And that women surrender their right not to be sexually assaulted after 2am. Or when hanging around footballers. Or when agreeing to be alone with any man.
The most troubling aspect in this debate is the concept that any woman ever deserves to be sexually assaulted. Naively, I thought we’d progressed miles from the arcane idea of ‘asking for it’, from the idea that a woman’s clothing or sexual history had any bearing on her right to say no.
If you are female and reading this, think hard. Have you ever been in a situation where, had it gone bad, someone might have said ‘you should have expected it’?
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I have very strong views on this topic. I too am lucky not to have been assaulted in my life but people I know and are very dear to me sadly have been.
My view is that on NO circumstances is it okay for a person to take advantage of another person in anyway, sexual or otherwise! I don't care if a woman is walking around naked or if you have had sex with them 100 times before you do not have the right to take it just because you want it. Simple!!!
While at time there is an expectation that does not mean it is a done deal. Mid kiss, in your room alone, right in the middle of bumping uglies, it doesn't matter, no means no.
I know 2 very smart women who have been woken up by their partners having sex with them. These women did not know this wa rape or that this was wrong. I think rape and sexual assault is still too much of a taboo subject. I don't think discussing the details of a sexual assault is the way to go, but I do think talking about what constitutes as sexual assault and what constitutes as consent or progressive consent. The more we talk about it the more victims will feel less ashamed and the more able to come forward to get the help and support they need (and where the victim feels capable to seej justice).
The whole men cant control their pernis because they are blah blah lah.This is crap there is no excuse.
1st I love that this story, fantastic and important topic.
Ok ive been lucky enough not to be assaulted n this way, guess i have always been extra careful, I drink and stay in control when im around a mixed group of ppl, when im with my closest friends i let loose cos i trust them and i know they will always look after me. As for going home with guys , well theres just 1 guy (he is straight too) i can go home to his place or mine and we can sleep in the same bed together and i know that he will respect my body by not touching me unless i have invited him too, - which as only gone as far as cuddles . we have never kissed either.
I have a close chickie friend she has been through absolute hell over the last month, with out going into much detail she had been having sex with a guy - with a condom , then she had him again that same night but he didnt wear a condom after she told him to cover up, he made up an excuse not to cover up and forced him into her. She saw a dr and police and they proceeded with rape etc , but police said it was hard to make it stick as she had sex with him earlier that same night, The dr. on the other hand said that its 100% rape as she said no to sex with out a condom. The male has not been caught yet as his DNA is not on the police database :( . So to me i see it as rape i hopeu all do too