Will this be the end of Tony Abbott?
By Michelle Grattan, University of Canberra
Liberal MPs who must decide whether to spill the leadership are confronted by a Newspoll that’s truly shocking for the embattled Prime Minister.
Labor has a massive 57-43% lead in two party terms, with the Coalition’s primary vote on 35%, down 3 points since the last poll and 10 points below the 2013 election level. Bill Shorten has a huge 48-30% advantage over Tony Abbott as better prime minister.
More than two third of voters (a record 68%, up 10 points) are dissatisfied with Abbott; only 24% (down 9 points) are satisfied.
And, as the MPs prepare to fill in their ballots to decide whether the leadership should be opened, they know what the voters think. Asked to choose between Abbott and Turnbull, 64% opt for Turnbull, and only 25% for Abbott.
The Australian, reporting the poll, notes that the two party result is the worst for the Coalition since the last days of Turnbull’s opposition leadership.
The one bit of polling good news for Abbott comes at a state level: a Fairfax/Ipsos poll in NSW shows the federal crisis hasn’t washed through to the Baird government – facing a March election – which had been a big Liberal fear. It leads Labor 56-44%.
Sunday night saw intense lobbying continuing ahead of Monday’s 9am party meeting, with Abbott pulling out all stops to shore up his support.
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I'm sickened by this result. Polls show that most voters don't want Abbott to lead. Who are MPs supposed to be loyal to? The majority of their electorate? The majority of their party branch? Their leader?
I hope the minor parties are taking notes on this debacle and start framing how they think their party can be structured differently and more democratically.
You've got to remember that polls only cover the opinions of a few thousand people. The flaw in deciding leaders using polls is that people who have no intention of voting for your party are still asked who should lead it. As an example, I personally will never vote for a Palmer United candidate but if a poll was to ask me who should be the PUP leader, I wouldn't choose Clive Palmer.
So should they sack Clive because of that?
Apparently the Lib MPs have been getting bombarded with emails from Liberal members who don't want a spill to happen and in a 20:1 ratio, are supporting Abbott.
"Apparently the Lib MPs have been getting bombarded with emails from
Liberal members who don't want a spill to happen and in a 20:1 ratio,
are supporting Abbott."
Do you have a reference for that? It seemed pretty clear that this was not Luke Simkins' experience before he called for the spill - nor was it demonstrated in the drubbing Abbott got today from 40% of his colleagues.
If those backbenchers were seeing 20:1 support for Abbott, can you explain why they would want him gone?
Admittedly, my reference was a Daily Telegraph article but it does contain quotes from several Lib MPs.
As for why, well I can only assume that 20:1 support from people who are already voting for you is different to the polls which show the opinions of those who aren't voting for you as well. Although in the latest Newspoll, I believe Abbott is still preferred to Turnbull 54/40.
Might I suggest that as part of the Murdoch empire, the Telegraph is hardly a passive observer in this debacle and, with it's far-right-wing leanings, may be more likely to publish the views of like-minded MPs rather than of those closer to the centre-right?
And, whether they like it or not, MPs are expected to consider the views of people who don't usually vote for them too.
"...on Sunday the policy on the $20 billion project for new submarines came into the leadership play, after South Australian senator Sean Edwards made his opposition to the spill conditional on the Australian Submarine Corporation being able to compete."... and that right there is why politics is in such trouble. Pure pork barreling, completely self-interested decision making with no reference to the greater good. Is SA the right place to be making submarines? Probably not (sorry SA). Already ruled out by Hockey, the option of SA shipyards doing it is now back on the cards... actually, sorry, 'able to put in a competitive bid.' Aah, gotcha. Wriggle room. The perfect setup for a backflip.
As I said, this is why we no longer believe a goddamn thing they say. Rodents.