Here’s what I hate about the idea of a plebiscite on same-sex marriage, in order of how much I hate it:
1. The prospect of a ‘no’ vote campaign that fundamentally rests on the idea that gay people do not deserve the same legal or human rights in Australia as heterosexual people.
2. The thought that LGBTI Australians will have to endure a government funded campaign by homophobes masquerading as ‘traditionalists’ who will use words like “unnatural” and “won’t someone think of the children” to stoke fear and hatred in our community.
3. The idea that vulnerable LGBTI young Australians, many of whom have not publicly disclosed their sexuality due to anxiety around acceptance, discrimination and bigotry will be exposed to a (government funded) campaign that says they’re not worthy of the same rights as their straight peers.
4. Being told I must 'respect' those who support and promote the 'no' campaign. I refuse to do this because denying someone else the right to do what you have the right to do, based on their sexuality is abhorrent to me. And not a position worthy of respect. Just as I would not have respected all those who argued against Indigenous Australians being given the right to vote in 1962. Or those who argued against women being given the right to vote in 1902. No respect. None. Less than none. Negative respect. Revulsion.
5. Spending $160m AT LEAST on a glorified opinion poll with a fancy name. A plebiscite is non-binding. Coalition members have already said they will ignore it if the result doesn't conform to their (homophobic) beliefs.
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Look if there is a plebiscite I am happy to vote yes, but I question the relevance of gay marriage, as far as I know in Australia defactos have the same legal rights as married couples, and gay people (just like heterosexual people) can be defactos.
I was actually totally for gay marriage as I figured well everyone should have equal rights when a friend of mine who is a defacto told me that she (and therefore any gay couple living in a defacto relationship) have exactly the same rights as a married couple. Actually I didn't believe her, but I looked up a few sites (can't recall offhand what they were I think Family Law site) which stated the same thing. I then did some googling to find out what benefit would come of gay marriage that gay defactos don't already get, and even for sites that are pro gay marriage the only thing I can see is that they get 'acceptance' and a pretty piece of paper.
Well I already accept my friends who are defactos and not married, and as it turns out so does the Australian legal system, perhaps however the fundamentalist Christian down the street disapproves of them not being married, but so what, who cares about their 'acceptance'.
And of course they won't get a chance to get married in a church, but once again who cares, why would anyone who lives a lifestyle that a church doesn't approve of want to be married in a church.
As a heterosexual I have the option of either living as a defacto or getting married and having a lovely wedding, and so yes I do get the argument that gay people don't have the second option, but personally it would not bother me if tomorrow the government said "well as of today to simplify our legal system all relationships will be called defacto, but everyone will still have the same legal rights as married couples", I would be fine with this, I could still have a ceremony, and wear a white dress if I choose and professed undying love to my defacto groom in front of family and friends, and our relationship would still be legally binding, it just wouldn't be called a 'marriage'.
I do get in other countries that perhaps their defacto laws were
different and therefore perhaps gay marriage did give rights that gay
people didn't have, but I just don't understand why it is such a big
deal here?
And this is where it is almost impossible to talk about, because the
minute you question gay marriage people assume you are anti gay rights, I
am all for gay rights, I just don't get the relevance of asking for
rights that for all intents and purposes gay people have. I would much
rather us spend all that money on AIDS research (something that would
help a lot of gay people)
On the other hand perhaps it will help acceptance for gay people, and
perhaps that is all that matters, but I do sometimes get sick of hearing
about something like this when there are huge issues in Australia that
are not being addressed that are really causing injustice to people,
i.e. why is AIDS funding rarely on the radar compared to other diseases,
why is dental health not on medicare meaning that poor Australians are
suffering terrible pain etc.
Look maybe there really is some right that gay people will get by getting married that they currently do not have under Australian defacto law, but I have asked on numerous sites and so far no one has been able to tell me any significant right that gay people will get once gay marriage becomes legal.
I am more than happy to be proven wrong, if someone can tell me a significant right that gay people will get in Australia if they can get married as opposed to having a gay defacto relationship then I will be happy to walk down the street and wave my rainbow coloured flag, but until then I just don't get the relevance of fighting so hard for something that won't effectively change gay people's lives. I would really love to see some doco or QandA actually address this issue as to what rights gay people will actually get that they are not currently getting.
I cannot understand how these passionate same sex debaters with all their variations on human 'rights', will never stand up/out against the abortion of unborn children from the womb? I would suggest that young peoples lack of understanding themselves and their world as teens, is a normal growing phase. But, in the rare case scenario of their ultimate despair, (taking their own life), comes more from their grief/horror at societies' (that's us), hypocrisy and double-dealing in killing unborn babies, euthanizing the elderly, infirm and disabled, bombing the world, and ultimately, not caring about others.