Trigger warning: This post deals with sexual assault. It may be distressing for some readers.
Fury star Shia LaBeouf has revealed he was sexually assaulted by a woman in a gallery earlier this year.
In February, LaBeouf sat silently in a gallery for five days with a paper bag on his head, as members of the public were invited to visit with him, one by one, and spend ten minutes with the star.
In a recent series of emails with a journalist from Dazed, LaBeouf has disclosed that he was sexually violated by a woman during the five day performance.
“One woman who came with her boyfriend, who was outside the door when this happened, whipped my legs for ten minutes and then stripped my clothing and proceeded to rape me,” LaBeouf wrote in an email.
“There were hundreds of people in line when she walked out with dishevelled hair and smudged lipstick. It was no good, not just for me but her man as well.”
“On top of that my girl was in line to see me, because it was Valentine’s Day and I was living in the gallery for the duration of the event — we were separated for five days, no communication. So it really hurt her as well, as I guess the news of it travelled through the line.”
“When she came in she asked for an explanation, and I couldn’t speak, so we both sat with this unexplained trauma silently. It was painful.”
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If people are interested - the Crimes Act - Division 10 pertaining to Sexual Assault is freely available online - quite interesting reading:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/a...
A lot of the time when people have sex, one person starts it and the other person either goes along with it or they don't. I've been reading a lot of comments that say "an absence of a no doesn't mean yes" so I want to clear something up. What does mean yes, besides the actual word yes? If one person seemingly goes along with it but didn't actually say no, stop or don't, is that rape? What about afterwards? I know you can get erections and lubricated from physical contact, which doesn't mean that they're aroused, but aside from a clear NO, what means no? Just because I've read a few comments that say "an absence of a no doesn't mean yes" and " just because they seemed aroused doesn't mean they were" and that seems tricky ground to me. Imagine you hooked up with someone on the couch for argument sake, you kiss them, and it leads to sex. No words are spoken, but afterwards they say " I didn't want that" is that rape?
Usually the person who receives the advances will give body language to reciprocate. If you go to kiss your partner and they do not reciprocate the kiss and keep their mouth frozen how does that make you feel? What does that tell you about their desires?
Ok but, kissing sometimes isn't involved in sex, I'm talking about actual sex, not just the lead up to. Plus you can kiss someone without wanting it to go further
That is true. My example was to articulate that complete non response to physical contact / affection is a pretty obvious signal that the person isn't interested. I don't know many people who would interpret it otherwise with out preexisting knowledge of the person and their body language. To make that assumption with a stranger is a big stretch.
I have sat at the computer basically asking your question and been howled down by the 'it's rape if someone says it is' crowd.
I think it's a reasonable question, because I've heard people define rape in some pretty broad ways (anything 'manipulative' is rape, consent is not just yes but an 'enthusiastic' yes...) I think a lot of them hinge on ideal world scenarios that don't always reflect reality. There is no (as far as I can tell) clear definition of what clearly constitutes a yes in every scenario. A lot of it seems to be based on ideas that don't apply everywhere or to everyone. Case in point: I had a relationship as an 18 year old with a slightly older man of Middle Eastern descent. I liked the sexual aspect of our relationship but would down play my enthusiasm because he responded better to that (and the implication that I was a 'good girl' who hadn't sought a lot of sexual experience prior to meeting him) and found the idea of 'corrupting' and inexperienced girl a bit of a turn on. In some cases a lack of response, a no that could be persuaded, or a tepid yes was code for an enthusiastic yes. In some cases it was an honest admission of 'I'm tired' or 'I don't care if we do or we don't' or even 'I'm not so into this' but we'd occasionally have sex anyway and I don't for a moment consider myself victimized, violated or abused. I tend to think a lot of relationships (most probably) feature some sexual encounters that are less than stellar or that didn't start with both partners equally wanting a sexual encounter. I wouldn't personally consider that rape but some people apparently do.
I'm a but tired of the dichotomy (which comes through loud and clear in many of these comments) between men as ever ready sex fiends and women as delicate flowers who never really want sex. It seems that a lot of people still buy into really out of date ideas about libido that preclude women from ever being really in charge of their sexuality. The idea that 'all heterosexual sex is basically male on female rape' still seems to be a weirdly common one.
However, if we're going to adopt expansive ideas of what rape is I think we need to be fair in recognizing all victims. If ANY sexual encounter that lacks the explicit and 'enthusiastic' consent of both parties is rape then Shia is a rape victim regardless of his, or his attacker's, gender. He says he didn't want the encounter and that's enough to label it an assault, which would be (apparently) an uncontroversial proposition if he was a female.