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"It's the great secret that so many women carry": Lisa Wilkinson's deeply moving interview about her miscarriages.

Lisa Wilkinson is a woman who wears many hats. Co-host of the Today show, Editor-at-Large of HuffPost Au and former editor of Dolly and CLEO magazines, Lisa has been at the heart of women’s conversations in Australia for decades.

But while Lisa is often the one asking the tough questions — whether it is her heartfelt speech about the domestic violence epidemic in Australia or her impassioned Andrew Olle lecture where she talked frankly about what it’s like to be a woman in the media — it’s not often that we get to see Lisa on the other side of the microphone.

Speaking with Katie “Monty” Dimond of Show + Tell, Lisa discussed everything from her relationship with her late dad to being the victim of bullying.

A target of bullies during her school years, Lisa says she chose to fall back into the shadows.

“If there’s bullies in your orbit, what they’re looking for is anybody who is shining, because they’re threatened by that, because for whatever reason they’ve got their own insecurities, they’ve got their own reasons of wanting to take power back.

“Usually that means at home they’ve got a lack of power, so they transfer that to school to try to regain that.”

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Co-founder of Show + Tell and radio host Monty Dimond.

While Lisa says the experience made her withdraw, all it did was let the bullies win.

The mother of three and the popular Today show co-host also talked about parenthood and how she and husband Peter FitzSimons suffered three miscarriages when trying for a fourth child.

“There is really nothing that prepares you for that moment when they do a scan and they say the baby’s dead. Just nothing prepares you for that.”

When she started talking to her friends about her miscarriages, she realised just how common they were — and how very few women shared their stories: “It’s the great secret that so many women carry”.

Lisa and Monty — who is the mother of two young boys — also discussed the divided heart that many mothers feel as they try to balance work and family when their kids are young.

“You’ve got to give yourself permission to be half okay at everything,” Lisa told her.

“You’ve got to get rid of the expectations you had before you had kids.”

For more in the series of Show and Tell’s interviews with Lisa, visit their website